New Zealand. Success stories. Episode 4.
An interesting and useful story about how to move to New Zealand as an accountant. Do I need to study and how to find a job in my specialty?
& mdash; (Author) Hello everybody! Today Anya will be visiting us. Anya is not IT. You all wanted and asked someone who would not be IT. Here, Anya is not an IT person. Now she will tell us who she is and what she does here, what she does.
& mdash; (Anna) Hi there! Im Anya. I came here for the first time to learn English. Then I fell in love with New Zealand, and I arrived, and suddenly became an accountant. Now I work as an accountant, but I want to return to teaching English.
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& mdash; (Author) So in Russia did you study English?
& mdash; (Anna) I studied English and accounting. That is, did both, and more. First she started working as an English teacher, then she became an accountant. Then I decided that I need to support English and go somewhere to learn it. I came here to get a Cambridge certificate for an English teacher.
& mdash; (Author) So, were there special special courses for teachers?
& mdash; (Anna) Yes, these are special courses, short-term, lasting 5-6 weeks. Classes every day. You are taught to teach, then you are already teaching on real students from all over the world. I had students from Spain, from Mexico, from Saudi Arabia. A lot of Asian students were. Then at the end you get a certificate, called “Celto”, which gives the opportunity and the right to teach in countries where English is not the first language.
& mdash; (Author) Did you somehow use this in Russia for a while then, or immediately, almost left again?
& mdash; (Anna) I returned to Russia with insight, how to teach, what you need to do with students, because at the institute, what they taught us is absolutely heaven and earth. And I worked at the Foreign Languages Center in Komsomolsk-on-Amur. I taught English to English people. And I saved money for coming back. It took me two years. Persuading my parents, my family, to let me go, and come here.
& mdash; (Author) And before that, when you first went, why New Zealand? Why did you come here to study here? You could go somewhere to London, for example.
& mdash; (Anna) It was possible. It was my dream to go to the UK, to the UK. But, by coincidence, the UK and Russia had complicated, tense relations on visas, and my agent told me: “Anya, why do not you try New Zealand? It’s much cheaper for money. ” I did not know anything about New Zealand, and the only association with New Zealand I had was kangaroos and Australia. My parents still ask me how there was a kangaroo, I saw a kangaroo? And in general on the “arm” completely arrived. Was amazed, surprised, in love.
& mdash; (Author) And immediately there was no doubt that we should go here again?
& mdash; (Anna) No, it was not. It was very difficult to leave, and I really wanted to return. I wanted to stay at once, but the visa was limited, it was impossible.
& mdash; (Author) So, was the first visa limited?
& mdash; (Anna) Yes, for 6 weeks.
& mdash; (Author) Only 6 weeks was?
& mdash; (Anna) Yes, there were short courses, but very good ones. I recommend it to everyone who teaches English.
& mdash; (Author) So, does this change the view on how to teach?
& mdash; (Anna) Completely cardinally. And if I had the opportunity to return to Russia and do teaching, I would have built the process of teaching and teaching students in a pedagogical university exactly the way they are taught here. A lot of practice. Because the institute teaches three years of theory, and then two weeks of practice. And here everything is vice versa.
& mdash; (Author) Okay, that is, it was the first step. Tell us then about the second step. How to go here as an accountant. As an English teacher it is clear.
& mdash; (Anna) To the bookkeeper, in principle, you can also go and need it. But the only way is to come on a student visa. Earlier, Unitech had an annual program, calculated for two semesters. It cost $ 16,000 for the year. The only condition was to pay the first part, half the cost of training, so you were given a visa for six months with the opportunity to work 20 hours. The only hitch was financial, in money. My agent helped me to issue a visa in Khabarovsk, and she also did all the documents to me. The only thing that was the question, where did the funds on the account come from? I had to provide a lot of documents that the money was not stolen, and to recharge, put money into the account. As everyone usually does.
& mdash; (Author) Yes, there are such difficulties.
& mdash; (Anna) There was a problem in Komsomolsk with obtaining a certificate from the bank in English. It took, probably, two weeks of negotiations and requests. Help had to go to pick up in Khabarovsk.
& mdash; (Author) Good. That is, you already had an accountancy before that, so you could have gone there this year?
& mdash; (Anna) I had even two educations. Diploma of English and German Teacher and Diploma in International Relations, Economist, International Relations. And when I arrived here, I was already a bit too lazy to study, and I already wanted to work. My first job was – I worked in a store, I sold clothes, which I did not go at all. Then I worked as a clerk.
& mdash; (Author) Is this during study?
& mdash; (Anna) Yes, during my studies, because I could work. There was absolutely no money. My budget was $ 100 per room, $ 100 for everything else – for food, for bus, for phone.
& mdash; (Author) That is, in principle, is it possible to earn such a living by working for yourself while you are studying?
& mdash; (Anna) Maybe, but you need to get really, really bad. And do not be afraid that I, for example, had 2 diplomas, Cambridge certificate, that’s with all this luggage I worked in rich houses, cleaned and washed.
& mdash; (Author) This is very bold. And few will want to do it. But for this you got what is now. So you disaccustomed and immediately found a job? Became an accountant?
& mdash; (Anna) When I started to study, I worked as a volunteer. More precisely, did not work, I just came and watched how they work, what they do. And then, after two months of this volunteer work, I got courage and asked them: “Give me a job, I’m dying of hunger.” They thought and said: “Come on, you’ll work.” My first salary was $ 13 or $ 11.
& mdash; (Anna) The minimum salary per hour. And I worked with them like this for a year for this minimum wage of 20 hours a week.
& mdash; (Author) But did you get a work visa?
& mdash; (Anna) No, I was on a student visa. At the end I was given a work visa, because I finished the year. and already on it I began to look for a normal job, where I would be paid normal money.
& mdash; (Author) That is, you worked there a year.
& mdash; (Anna) I worked for a year only because of the recommendation. I knew that I would have some minimal money not to die of hunger, and that I would receive recommendations that are very important, local. Here so it has held on.
& mdash; (Author) And then a year later you worked elsewhere?
& mdash; (Anna) Then, a year later, when I finally had a work visa, I went to work in a foreign language school. By chance. I met a friend, he worked in the school, brought me to the head teacher, said: “Here is Anya, she has a Cambridge certificate, take her to work.” They took me to work. I had students from Thailand.
& mdash; (Author) So, did you learn English here? It is very interesting.
& mdash; (Anna) It was very, very strange, because I came from Russia and taught English at a local school in the center of Auckland.
& mdash; (Author) Very unusual.
& mdash; (Anna) But she continued to look for an accounting job. Went for interviews, sent out resumes everywhere. Finally, I found a normal job, in the construction company, where I wanted, the position I wanted. The only thing is, it’s the entrants position, the initial position where you can come. Even if you were the chief accountant, there are a lot of girls I know, you have to start from scratch, you start here from scratch. Now I have the position assistant accounts.
& mdash; (Author) That is, it’s like an assistant, in fact. The initial position, yes?
& mdash; (Anna) This position, it turns out, is even higher than the accounts payable. That is, in accounting there is a slightly different structure. Accounts payable and accounts receivables, two positions, accounts receivable accountant and accounts payable accountant. And assistant accounts does everything, that is, a universal such person, an expert.
& mdash; (Author) So, are you working there for a year now?
& mdash; (Anna) She marked the year. satisfied, work is like. At work there is a shower, in the center of the city, at lunch I run to the park.
& mdash; (Author) Are you a runner?
& mdash; (Anna) Yes, I run to the park three times a week. We have a lot of corporate events. Tea, fruit free, milk is free. It is unusual for a person who came from Russia to pay everything here. I like everything very much.
& mdash; (Author) How have you already obtained the residency?
& mdash; (Anna) Yes, I was very helped at work with the filing for residency. Here, what surprised me, they do not understand what you need for residency. So you work with them and work. I say: “Give me a two-year contract,” because I need a two-year contract for residency. They say: “We can not give you a two-year contract, because your visa is running out.” I say: “So you give me a contract so that the visa does not end.” I had to go to a local lawyer, and she acted as an intermediary, and negotiated with them. I explained that they would not get anything for it if they gave me a contract.
& mdash; (Author) Here in general such a situation that employers are not at all the topic of all immigrant affairs, sometimes they need to be explained.
& mdash; (Anna) And they do not listen to you, it is important for them to hear from someone who is local. So I went to the local lawyer.
& mdash; (Author) You have such a difficult path.
& mdash; (Anna) It helped me a lot. I was given a contract, and I moved to residence. I was approved for residence within 3-4 months. There was an unheard-of joy, galloping around the office. Everyone was also happy for me.
& mdash; (Author) Yes, you had an absolutely hard way. It turns out, IT is easier. We can understand this from this, because before that everyone was saying how simple everything is, and everything was rather difficult for you. But now you are satisfied with everything, are you happy?
& mdash; (Anna) Yes, I’m very pleased.
& mdash; (Author) Do you plan to stay while in Oakland, here to continue to live? Or somehow thought of other cities?
& mdash; (Anna) While here it is accepted to work, to gain experience in Oakland, and then to leave to the region. Buy a house and live by the sea. On the accounting side, you must become a member of the Association of Certified Accountants. And this is additional costs for passing the exam, additional money, extra time. It is very difficult to study here at the institute, working full-time. But this is the path that you choose consciously to ensure yourself further life. Once you become a certified accountant, you earn ten times as much.
& mdash; (Author) So, is there a big difference?
& mdash; (Anna) There is a very big difference. The position of Financial controller, financial accountant, it is taken only by CA, certified accountant.
& mdash; (Author) Right now you’ve come all the way. And how to other accountants, maybe you know, some ways, how easy it is to do it. That is, it will in any case be through education?
& mdash; (Anna) It is in any case through education. I do not know of any accountant who would come here and not study here. Despite the fact that there is nothing in the accounting, the requirements are much softer to the documents, to the accounting. The principle is the same, but you still need to learn. This is the only way to get here and find a job.
& mdash; (Author) That is, the accounting part is the only way. Simply, say, in IT you can take language courses short, come and find a job. You say that you do not know of such cases by accountants?
& mdash; (Author) We have usual questions – pros and cons. I do not know, you have come for a long time for the first time, already, probably, do not remember what shocked you, what did not. But maybe now you can somehow say that you like. Some people do not like the “noisy” asphalt in places, or the bones in mandarins are very large, or some real problems of New Zealand.
& mdash; (Anna) When I first arrived, I left the airport, and I was just surprised – was May, it was all very green, beautiful and clean. I did not see a single curb, a curb that was crumbling. In Komsomolsk this is a common thing. This really amazed me. Straight roads, and friendly people. I walked down the street on the first day, went for a walk, and I think: “I’ll go, maybe I’ll meet someone or see how people live here.” I walked for about 40 minutes or 50 minutes, I did not see anyone on the street at all. Cars, bicyclists, and, in general, no pedestrians passed by me. This puzzled me very much, there was not even anyone to ask for directions.
& mdash; (Author) It was not the center of the city, it turns out.
& mdash; (Anna) It was not the center of the city. Smooth roads, smiling people.
& mdash; (Author) And from the minuses?
& mdash; (Anna) I brought with my optimistic ignorance my favorite silk dressing gown. I lived in a family. And the first day I took a shower, went out in this silk dressing gown, they all sit in sweaters, insulated. In general, it was cold to me.
& mdash; (Author) Is it cold in the houses?
& mdash; (Anna) It’s cold in the houses and very unusual. Now it’s normal. I put on three layers of clothes.
& mdash; (Author) That is, you can get used to everything.
& mdash; (Anna) You get used to everything.
& mdash; (Author) Many people say that, yes, it’s cold, wet.
& mdash; (Anna) Nothing of the kind. You get used to everything in order to enjoy the surrounding charms.
& mdash; (Author) And from personal. You say that you are running. How are the runners here?
& mdash; (Anna) The runners are very good. You run away, runners run to meet you too.
& mdash; (Author) A lot of people are running around here, I also noticed.
& mdash; (Anna) A lot of people are running around. My last discovery is that people are running around so hard. It is not easy for a healthy lifestyle. They have clubs called jogging clubs. They run and run, and at the end they run to the bar. This is very popular in CBD. They all run out of the office.
& mdash; (Author) In the afternoon, during lunch?
& mdash; (Author) After work?
& mdash; 9Anna) Yes. And they run to the bar.
& mdash; (Author) At the bar they drink alcohol …
& mdash; (Anna) Yes. At the end of the distance, they drink beer or whatever they want. That is, I realized that just so no one will run. There are, probably, some.
& mdash; (Author) Yes, there are always held some marathons, half marathons. You say you participated in this?
& mdash; (Anna) Very interesting. What amazed me was that of 6,000 participants in this marathon, everyone was given T-shirts with a logo, and there were a lot of people in wheelchairs who were pushed, maybe their relatives, these strollers, helped them. But they are full-fledged members of society, full participants in the race, nothing like that. They also have a number with a barcode, it’s time for them to count.
& mdash; (Author) That’s right. Yes. Here, too, it was amazing to me how much disabled, how people in Russia are called invalids, they can not be called disabled at all, it’s a very ugly word. But how everything is there – ramps, etc.
& mdash; (Author) Probably, in any developed country it is.
& mdash; (Anna) Even if you sprained your ankle, they give you a stroller, and you go everywhere in a wheelchair. A full member of society.
& mdash; (Author) Then we finish gradually. Your story is her own advice. You have experienced so much, and it was not easy.
& mdash; (Anna) I think that everything is still ahead.
& mdash; (Author) At the current stage. Show for those who want to get residency to start. Is there any such farewell message?
& mdash; (Anna) Try, try, do not sit still. And believe in yourself. when I left, no one believed, there was a lot of doubt. Because I went to nowhere, alone. I was often told: “Anya, what are you going to do there? Nothing you can not, you will not achieve anything. Why do you quit your job, your apartment? ” But, most importantly, it is to believe, do, strive, try. And do not listen to anyone.
& mdash; (Author) Good. Thank you very much!
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